Lord Macaulay's words on India in his Address to the British Parliament on 2nd Febrauvary, 1835

shailaja s bhat
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        Friends I found this as very interesting,  Please leave your valuable opinion on this .

          

     

 

 

As Mohan das Karam chand Gandhi said"

You must not  lose faith in humanity.

Humanity is an Ocean;

if a few drops of the Ocean are dirty,

the Ocean does not become dirty."

 

I feel we Indians should have faith in our future , and should work for it.

‘Worthy goals and ideals’.

According to Dr.Victor E.Frankl, author of

 ‘Man’s search for meaning’, there is a need to create a meaning and purpose in life. To be  truly happy, you  need a  clear sense of  direction; you need a  commitment  to something  bigger , larger and more important  than  yourself. You need to feel that your life stands for something bigger, larger and more important than yourself.

 

    I feel instead of blaming our politicians or our corrupt system we should work for the betterment of  our society and country by performing ones own duty with utmost faith and honesty.


Lakshmi M Bhat / / 4 yrs ago
Lakshmi M Bhat

Yes , the world would really be a better place if everyone did their duty with sincerity. But for so many doing their duty to the best of their ability is not as important as making their lives more comfortable, and that too at the expense of others:)
Lakshmi


shailaja s bhat / / 4 yrs ago
shailaja s bhat



Vaidyanathan Pushpagiri Sir,

Thanks for providing good analysis of the above statement.As mentioned by Supriyo Choudhari I feel it is spoof.



Internet publishing allows more people to participate in creation and validation of existing knowledge. Yes, one needs to know how to validate available information, but that has nothing to do with Internet publishing or amateur blogging. This comment above was published in journals, was displayed in Ministry of HRD placards, quoted by celebrities and used in classrooms in famous schools, but it is still a spoof: Macaulay never said that.

This last para I have quoted from his blog only.

If a lie is told hundred times it doesn't become Truth. This holds true in many cases. Above quoted statement of Macaulay  sounds like sarcastic statement ,if it is true.

Though we Indians are benefitted  by the English modern education, I don't think our past system of education was not lacking by any means. I feel instead of feeling bad or inferior about ourselves we should be proud of ourselves and try to improve .

Thanks for your eye opening link.

Shailaja








Vaidyanathan Pushpagiri

Lord Macaulay's Address to the British Parliament on 2nd February, 1835 


Someone attributed the following statement to Lord McCauley in his


speech of Feb 2,1835 (The Minutes):


"I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not


seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have


seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber,


that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we


break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and


cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old


and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think


that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their


own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and


they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation?.


 


Shailaja : If you are meaning this piece, please  be rest assured it is only an attribute and not spoken by Lord Macaulay.  


Compare with this:


A friend has recently forwarded me a quote from Lord Macaulay's speech in the British Parliament on 2nd February 1835. I reproduce the quote below: 


"I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation." 


The email requested me to forward me to every indian I know. I was tempted, but there were two oddities about this quote. First, the language, which appeared too modern. Second, this was far too obvious and too cynical for Macaulay, who was an apologist of the empire, and believed in its high moral purpose. The quote was obviously a fraud. 


I was, however, tempted to check the source of this quote [I take this blog seriously!]. I found this useful article on http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/hinduism/macaulay.html. The article basically says that there is no authoritative source for this quote, except Hindu Nationalist magazines and sources, though this is widely circulated and believed. The author also claims that it is unlikely that such a speech was made, as Macaulay would have been in India on that date. 


Then I found more information on Macaulay's speech in http://books.google.com/books?id=0kSMosMLUMwC&pg=PA169&lpg=PA169&dq=lord+macaulay+2nd+february+1835+india&source=web&ots=wmjOO95mYR&sig=Q6U0FlzLCJH3Tl21qCOIqva-oy8#PPA174,M1 which told me that Macaulay addressed the parliament on about Indian education. [The date was 10th July 1833] This speech is usually referred together with his famous Minutes on Indian Education, which was indeed dated 2nd February 1835 where he was arguing in favour of using English as the medium of education in India, and made his oft-quoted comment that 'a single shelf of good european library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia'. However, what is overlooked, rather conveniently, is this comment contained the same document: Are we to keep the people of India ignorant in order that we may keep them submissive? Or do we think that we can give them knowledge without awakening ambition? Or do we mean to awaken ambition and to provide it with no legitimate vent? Who will answer any of these questions in the affirmative? Yet one of them must be answered in the affirmative, by every person who maintains that we ought permanently to exclude the natives from high office. I have no fears. The path of duty is plain before us: and it is also the path of wisdom, of national prosperity, of national honor.[http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.html] 


Clearly, Macaulay was saying something directly opposite to what has been quoted as his! 


http://casi.ssc.upenn.edu/india/iit_Prasad2.htm contains another excellent article, which drew my attention to another of famous Macaulay quotes, contained in his Minutes on Education - We must at present do our best to form a class who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern; a class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect. However, this article also attempts to explain why Macaulay is such a hate figure among the Hindu nationalists. 


India is one of those countries with a great past and a promising future - and a present made up of unending conflicts between the two. No wonder Lord Macaulay has been invoked again, by email! And, no wonder it is a spoof, suiting some political Indian's view of the world. However, the colonialist that he was, India can thank Lord Macaulay for its modernity. He scripted the Indian Penal Code. He made no convenient adjustment to local religions. He wanted to build an education system secular and scientific, free of age-old prejudices and at par with the Western world. While his comment on Indian and Arabian literature was certainly ignorant, he played his part in building the modern India we are all so proud of. 


http://sundayposts.blogspot.com/2008/01/lord-macaulays-quote-on-india.html 


source : Internet.


Vaidyanathan Pushpagiri.